tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post115319121807517737..comments2023-10-29T08:25:50.241-04:00Comments on The Musings and Prophecies of Metstradamus: Hall Of Hate: The 2006 ResultsMetstradamushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18023215480704948183noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153449085153528342006-07-20T22:31:00.000-04:002006-07-20T22:31:00.000-04:00adoniram,Absolutely that's a big factor. Duquette...adoniram,<BR/><BR/>Absolutely that's a big factor. Duquette was always a puppet for the Wilpons from day one. The Wilpons wanted Kazmir gone so he was gone.<BR/><BR/>But what gets me about Duquette was that he comes out and says he was against it, trying to save his own skin when everyone KNEW he was a puppet in that deal. If he's going to make a big deal out of being against that deal, then he should have said something THEN! Saying something after the fact to the media to cover his ass just makes him look like a complete moron. He had his chance to speak up during the fateful meeting.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately the Wilpons are to blame for that debacle. But Duquette trying to cleanse himself after the fact was pathetic on his part.<BR/><BR/>As for Phillips, there were worse GM's than Phillips, I agree. But if Riccardi takes that Cruz Jr. for Wright deal, how would you feel about the man who traded Wright AND Jason Bay? Like I said...I was willing to defend Phillips until I heard about that. That's inexcusable.Metstradamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023215480704948183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153439990533253082006-07-20T19:59:00.000-04:002006-07-20T19:59:00.000-04:00OK, the worse GM's comment was referring to Philli...OK, the worse GM's comment was referring to Phillips, not to Duquette although I see how that can be confusing since I followed it immediately with the get over Scott Kazmir comment.<BR/><BR/>I still maintain that there are worse GM's than Steve Phillips. As for Duquette, yeah, the Kazmir trade was an abomination. However, you gotta remember when he says he didn't like it that he was only the interim GM. That's a big factor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153424158850487792006-07-20T15:35:00.000-04:002006-07-20T15:35:00.000-04:00Don't forget that David Wright came to the Mets in...Don't forget that David Wright came to the Mets indirectly from the loss of Mike Hampton to free agency. He was a supplemental draft pick the Rockies owed us for signing Hampton. Yet another Steve Philips mess up that we got LUCKY on. But of course Philips even trys to throw away our luck by trading him for Cruz Jr. You really can't make this stuff up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153368459671271852006-07-20T00:07:00.000-04:002006-07-20T00:07:00.000-04:00I am to young to remember the Seaver stuff with Di...I am to young to remember the Seaver stuff with Dick Young, but I do remember the mean article he wrote before Doc game back from rehab in 1987 that the fans should all boo Doc. For that he deserves induction too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153362220042270432006-07-19T22:23:00.000-04:002006-07-19T22:23:00.000-04:00adoniram,I agreed with you on Phillips until the T...adoniram,<BR/><BR/>I agreed with you on Phillips until the Toronto Star wrote a story today (and hotfoot brought it to our attention) that Phillips offered offered David Wright for Jose Cruz Jr. in 2002 when Wright was in single A Cap City and Cruz was hitting in the .220's, so to heck with him.<BR/><BR/>Worse GM's? Please name them. Please name the other GM (or GM's) that traded their number ONE prospect for a MEDIOCRE pitcher with arm problems. And before you give me Brian Sabean (Liriano and Nathan for Pierzynski), who has done as many good things as bad for the Giants, did Sabean come out years later and tried to claim that he was the lone management type that was against the trade, but didn't have the cajones to veto the trade even though he was the GM?<BR/><BR/>Although I DO subscribe to the theory that without that horrible trade there would be no Omar Minaya, and thus no Pedro, Carlos, or Carlos...why did it have to take the WORST trade in the history of trades to make that happen?<BR/><BR/>So I'll get over Scott Kazmir on my own time, thank you.Metstradamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023215480704948183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153354606495058142006-07-19T20:16:00.000-04:002006-07-19T20:16:00.000-04:00How can you guys vote for Steve Phillips on this o...How can you guys vote for Steve Phillips on this one? Yeah the guy is annoying, yeah he made some mistakes... but he also led us to a World Series and drafted some of the guys that are now our core.<BR/><BR/>A-Rod signing? Gimme a break, I didn't want that loser on my team anyway.<BR/><BR/>Robby Alomar? Coming off an MVP-ish year Philips was supposed to know Alomar was done?<BR/><BR/>C'mon guys... there are many worse GM's.<BR/><BR/>P.S. Get over Scott Kazmir!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153353429091076702006-07-19T19:57:00.000-04:002006-07-19T19:57:00.000-04:00Who in the world would want Pelfrey as the player ...Who in the world would want Pelfrey as the player to be named later if he can stay in the Mets' organization for 6 more months and possibly get hurt? That's just absurd. And, from the Mets' POV, why would they want him around, pitching for them when he really belongs to another organization. I don't understand why his name keeps coming up as trade bait to begin with. <BR/><BR/>As for hate, all I can say is "how quickly we forget." Steve Phillips may have brought us the Alomar and Vaughn era, but he also got us to the World Series with signings and trades such as the ones that brought Robin Ventura, Mike Piazza, Al Leiter and Turk Wendell to this team. Yes, he's a better analyst on ESPN than he was GM for the Mets, but we cannot forget all the good things he did for this team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153274545497632932006-07-18T22:02:00.000-04:002006-07-18T22:02:00.000-04:00Kingman,That has been an idea I've kicked around f...Kingman,<BR/><BR/>That has been an idea I've kicked around for a while. Don't be surprised if next year holds the debut for the veterans committee.Metstradamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023215480704948183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153258540169730602006-07-18T17:35:00.000-04:002006-07-18T17:35:00.000-04:00I was one of the many who posted on other boards t...I was one of the many who posted on other boards that Pelfrey could'nt be traded because of rule 3(b)(7), the Inky Rule.<BR/><BR/>I was wrong. :(<BR/><BR/>Pelfrey can be traded now as the player to be named later. It has been done before.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, they can trade him now, send him to the minors (he cant stay on the ML club) and then when January comes around (one year after he signed) ship him to the other team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153246417353002202006-07-18T14:13:00.000-04:002006-07-18T14:13:00.000-04:00Metstra - Thanks for the heads up on Neil Smith. H...Metstra - Thanks for the heads up on Neil Smith. <BR/>Holy Crap!Ed in Westchesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07074201896216372874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153245865023012442006-07-18T14:04:00.000-04:002006-07-18T14:04:00.000-04:00As for Pelfrey and trading him, there have been va...As for Pelfrey and trading him, there have been various reports about him being able to be listed as a PTBNL. Some sites say yes, others no.Ed in Westchesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07074201896216372874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153245800433549022006-07-18T14:03:00.000-04:002006-07-18T14:03:00.000-04:00To quote Eric Cartman from South Park - "Tom Hanks...To quote Eric Cartman from South Park - "Tom Hanks? Tom Hanks couldn't act his way out of a nut sack".<BR/>Mr. Hanks - You pick a team, you stick with the team, no matter how bad things get. <BR/>Cripes, I root for the triad of bad, Mets, Jets and Isles. <BR/><BR/>As for the Hate Of Fame, I am a tad over 35 myself, but do not quite remember the whole Dick Young thing. I was just starting to become a fan at the time. I gotta find these stories.Ed in Westchesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07074201896216372874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153240509553603952006-07-18T12:35:00.000-04:002006-07-18T12:35:00.000-04:00I've never listened to Mike and the Mad Dog, but a...I've never listened to Mike and the Mad Dog, but after reading Sports Guy's running diary of the show one day, I couldn't help but be annoyed. So Francesa got my vote. That and the Billy Wagner music debacle was by far the dumbest, most blown out of proportion, so-called travesty I've ever heard of.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://thundermatt.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Thunder Matt's Saloon</A>Jake the Terrible Cubs Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05718472591217612598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153237565813495862006-07-18T11:46:00.000-04:002006-07-18T11:46:00.000-04:00The fact that Dick Young is not a member of the Ha...The fact that Dick Young is not a member of the Hall of Hate shows that there are not enough people age 35+ casting ballots.<BR/><BR/>The man tramautized my youth. The Seaver trade was probably the franchise's low point.<BR/><BR/>Duke screwed up, to be sure. But I don't think we can hate him because his intent was not evil, just misguided.<BR/><BR/>Young, on the other hand, was looking to drive Seaver out of town, was a mouthpiece for the Mets management and protected a relative working for the team.'<BR/><BR/>I hate him!Mets Guy in Michiganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048899230969074579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153232501076330222006-07-18T10:21:00.000-04:002006-07-18T10:21:00.000-04:00Metstra:Brilliant work. The Duquette Hall of Hate ...Metstra:<BR/><BR/>Brilliant work. The Duquette Hall of Hate plaque is priceless. Guess Francessa's would have to be a "double wide". Your site continues to entertain with it's creativity, humor, and subject matter.The Metmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18327128126246321561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153197568529612922006-07-18T00:39:00.000-04:002006-07-18T00:39:00.000-04:00I did.You should let Ken Williams know that. He o...I did.<BR/><BR/>You should let Ken Williams know that. He obviously isn't clear on that rule.<BR/><BR/>Or he is and think that Omar isn't clear on that rule.Metstradamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18023215480704948183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12468344.post-1153197220807999232006-07-18T00:33:00.000-04:002006-07-18T00:33:00.000-04:00Metstra...you may know this but Mike Pelfrey can n...Metstra...you may know this but Mike Pelfrey can not be traded this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com